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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2024 0:59:46 GMT -5
The 3 line break shows a sell for HYD,NHMAX,ORNAX but not for NHVIX/NHVAX. THE chart also shows why you can stay with the last. schrts.co/umMkNBQvYou have to look at several things until you are sure. It's a learning skill.
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Post by doubletrouble on Mar 19, 2024 8:04:10 GMT -5
Admin, how can you tell from your chart that HYD, NHMAX, and ORNAX show a 3 line sell but not NHVIX/NHVAX?
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Post by Admin on Mar 19, 2024 23:30:04 GMT -5
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Post by doubletrouble on Mar 20, 2024 5:24:59 GMT -5
Thank you.
Two questions:
1. On your NHMAX chart, does 1 red indicate a 3 line break or are 3 red's needed to constitute a 3 line break?
2. Since SharpCharts is not accepting symbols NHVIX or NHVAX how do you know that it is not showing a 3 line break sell?
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Post by linter on Mar 20, 2024 6:40:08 GMT -5
Thank you. Two questions: 1. On your NHMAX chart, does 1 red indicate a 3 line break or are 3 red's needed to constitute a 3 line break? 2. Since SharpCharts is not accepting symbols NHVIX or NHVAX how do you know that it is not showing a 3 line break sell? you can see it at barchart.com: i.imgur.com/x828utc.png
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Post by doubletrouble on Mar 20, 2024 12:20:59 GMT -5
Thank you. Two questions: 1. On your NHMAX chart, does 1 red indicate a 3 line break or are 3 red's needed to constitute a 3 line break? 2. Since SharpCharts is not accepting symbols NHVIX or NHVAX how do you know that it is not showing a 3 line break sell? you can see it at barchart.com: i.imgur.com/x828utc.pngWhat settings do you use in barchart to get this 3 line break?
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Post by donnyboy on Mar 20, 2024 13:22:53 GMT -5
In Barchart go to interactive charts. Right after the rectangle where you put in the symbol is the Go button then after that is where you can change chart types. Click on that and you can scroll down to Line Break. It looks to me to be the same as Stockcharts Three Line Break.
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Post by doubletrouble on Mar 20, 2024 19:13:09 GMT -5
That worked. Thank you.
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Post by Admin on Mar 20, 2024 23:21:15 GMT -5
You only need one bar for sell or buy. Stockchart has NVHIX(you posted NHVIX), see schrts.co/tEYMzIbJAlthough this indicator is pretty good, it's not perfect, nothing is. I also use a longer slower term indicator. You need to find one. Sometimes it shows up before the ST indicator and sometimes it keeps you invested instead of selling. After looking at stockchart vs barchart they are not equal. The barchart has a sell signal in January, the other doesn't. I'm using stockchart for years now.
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Post by doubletrouble on Mar 21, 2024 5:24:16 GMT -5
You only need one bar for sell or buy. Stockchart has NVHIX(you posted NHVIX), see schrts.co/tEYMzIbJAlthough this indicator is pretty good, it's not perfect, nothing is. I also use a longer slower term indicator. You need to find one. Sometimes it shows up before the ST indicator and sometimes it keeps you invested instead of selling. After looking at stockchart vs barchart they are not equal. The barchart has a sell signal in January, the other doesn't. I'm using stockchart for years now. Thanks for the clarification on the number of bars for a sell or buy. While you used NVHIX in your stockchart on March 18th, I picked up NHVIX/NHVAX from the body of your post.
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Post by donnyboy on Mar 21, 2024 7:30:26 GMT -5
Sorry FD1000 and Doubletrouble the charts are not the same. I thought I was on to something. I tried changing the settings in barchart to match stockcharts but they still don,t match.
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Post by Admin on Mar 21, 2024 18:20:36 GMT -5
Sorry FD1000 and Doubletrouble the charts are not the same. I thought I was on to something. I tried changing the settings in barchart to match stockcharts but they still don,t match. No worries. I thought maybe you found another source because I love finding new stuff.
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Post by Admin on Mar 24, 2024 5:55:56 GMT -5
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Post by linter on Mar 24, 2024 8:25:18 GMT -5
you're right. what a load of hot air and blather signifying nothing.
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Post by Admin on Mar 24, 2024 19:17:17 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Apr 27, 2024 8:56:45 GMT -5
PMORX is a fund I have known for years. It is a nontrad bond fund. The managers used to short bonds in the past. It had a good performance for one month and excellent YTD. I'm not comfortable with -0.5% loss. In the past it had much bigger losses. Attachments:
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Post by junkster on Apr 27, 2024 11:06:23 GMT -5
PMORX is a fund I have known for years. It is a nontrad bond fund. The managers used to short bonds in the past. It had a good performance for one month and excellent YTD. I'm not comfortable with -0.5% loss. In the past it had much bigger losses. Love this fund and tried to purchase it a while back at Schwab. But PMORX available only to existing shareholders. PMOLX not available. PMOYX available to institutional only which I assume you need an advisor? On the other hand, a friend purchased PMORX at Fidelity recently with no problem and he wasn’t an existing shareholder,
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Post by doubletrouble on Apr 27, 2024 15:46:31 GMT -5
PMORX is a fund I have known for years. It is a nontrad bond fund. The managers used to short bonds in the past. It had a good performance for one month and excellent YTD. I'm not comfortable with -0.5% loss. In the past it had much bigger losses. Love this fund and tried to purchase it a while back at Schwab. But PMORX available only to existing shareholders. PMOLX not available. PMOYX available to institutional only which I assume you need an advisor? On the other hand, a friend purchased PMORX at Fidelity recently with no problem and he wasn’t an existing shareholder, It looks like PMORX (NTF) and PMOYX ($8 TF) can be purchased at Vanguard with $500 minimum.
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Post by junkster on Apr 27, 2024 16:22:00 GMT -5
Love this fund and tried to purchase it a while back at Schwab. But PMORX available only to existing shareholders. PMOLX not available. PMOYX available to institutional only which I assume you need an advisor? On the other hand, a friend purchased PMORX at Fidelity recently with no problem and he wasn’t an existing shareholder, It looks like PMORX (NTF) and PMOYX ($8 TF) can be purchased at Vanguard with $500 minimum. Thanks for the info. Fund’s website says PMORX open to new. Think I will contact Schwab and find out why closed to new there. Same situation with TD Ameritrade rejecting my order a while back saying closed to new, Tried again today and same story.
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Post by linter on Apr 28, 2024 6:03:01 GMT -5
PMORX is a fund I have known for years. It is a nontrad bond fund. The managers used to short bonds in the past. It had a good performance for one month and excellent YTD. I'm not comfortable with -0.5% loss. In the past it had much bigger losses. Love this fund and tried to purchase it a while back at Schwab. But PMORX available only to existing shareholders. PMOLX not available. PMOYX available to institutional only which I assume you need an advisor? On the other hand, a friend purchased PMORX at Fidelity recently with no problem and he wasn’t an existing shareholder, you're right: available at fidelity, NTF and load waved, with a $500 min.
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Post by Admin on May 1, 2024 7:23:43 GMT -5
I called my Schwab rep about PMORX on Monday. He put in a request for me to be able to buy PMORX. Today it's available. Min amount is $100 without fees.
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Post by linter on May 1, 2024 10:24:04 GMT -5
I called my Schwab rep about PMORX on Monday. He put in a request for me to be able to buy PMORX. Today it's available. Min amount is $100 without fees. just did a test order and had it rejected at the end, with this reason given: "1. Buys for existing position only." in other words, no go unless i already owned the fund. obviously, ymmv.
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Post by junkster on May 1, 2024 17:01:35 GMT -5
Down 0.45% today. It has had a stellar month. Still after being camped out and spoiled in some nice trending funds such as HOSIX, RCRIX, and SCFZX think I will pass on PMORX. Am totally out of another trender CBYYX. Also, and I could be dead wrong about this but detect some subtle slowing in the economy and commodities. The 10 year could be near a top in yields and it may be time to add risk in bonds. Friday’s job report could be a big tell if there is any slowdown in hiring/economy. If not then more pain for the risk on.
Correction - make that down 0.34% for PMORX. More for the other classes of the fund,
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Post by graust on May 2, 2024 7:21:07 GMT -5
Down 0.45% today. It has had a stellar month. Still after being camped out and spoiled in some nice trending funds such as HOSIX, RCRIX, and SCFZX think I will pass on PMORX. Am totally out of another trender CBYYX. Also, and I could be dead wrong about this but detect some subtle slowing in the economy and commodities. The 10 year could be near a top in yields and it may be time to add risk in bonds. Friday’s job report could be a big tell if there is any slowdown in hiring/economy. If not then more pain for the risk on. Correction - make that down 0.34% for PMORX. More for the other classes of the fund, junkster Looking at Yahoo Finance for historical NAV numbers, it looks like the last two months it has gone down more than the NAV on its ex- day (by 1 or 2 cents more). So maybe it chooses those days to mark-to-market its holdings more closely? Not that the fund is fraudulent but I bet it holds illiquid things that are difficult to get accurate values day-to-day (similar to IOFIX and other such funds)? Thanks for sharing your thoughts EDIT: Not sure what that has to do with the price of tea in China, other than it has a few days where it jumps or declines more than most days. Monday it jumped 0.22% (2 cents). I bought a small bit of it NTF and will at least hold until 60 days have passed.
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Post by Admin on May 3, 2024 7:09:44 GMT -5
Yahoo isn't the easiest place to look, but even if I look at Yahoo finance.yahoo.com/quote/PMORX/historyI still don't see where the price is down. From March 1st under the closed column I see 6.68 and yesterday at 8.85. Under the adjusted column it's 5.59 to 8.85. This is the more accurate one. The difference is the performance. An easier way is to look at M* or stockchart schrts.co/pzStAAswRemember, since most bond funds performance is mostly distributions the price doesn't change much. I didn't dive into the holdings but I don't think there is mark to mark or illiquid issues anything close to IOFIX. The managers use shorting and more tools than most, the performance is pretty good, compared to PIMIX.
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Post by junkster on May 3, 2024 10:59:32 GMT -5
Down 0.45% today. It has had a stellar month. Still after being camped out and spoiled in some nice trending funds such as HOSIX, RCRIX, and SCFZX think I will pass on PMORX. Am totally out of another trender CBYYX. Also, and I could be dead wrong about this but detect some subtle slowing in the economy and commodities. The 10 year could be near a top in yields and it may be time to add risk in bonds. Friday’s job report could be a big tell if there is any slowdown in hiring/economy. If not then more pain for the risk on. Correction - make that down 0.34% for PMORX. More for the other classes of the fund, Bought meaningless ( as in small) positions in junk, emerging markets, and SEMMX yesterday in anticipation of a weaker jobs report. Have done that before only to be disappointed. The day is still young so could once again be disappointed. If we close strong may increase. The inflation reports due out this month may show waning price pressures, Be interesting to see how PMORX handles today. Much of its recent outperformance was due to rising Treasury yields. As mentioned above the 10 year could be near a top in yields ( or now already topped). SEMMX is more of a plodder, albeit a steady plodder, and hasnt been impacted YTD by the rising yields. Had been in it earlier in the year till it went sideways. So we shall see.
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Post by OutOnBond on May 3, 2024 18:32:14 GMT -5
The cat bond funds don't like Fridays: CBYYX down 0.83% and EMPIX down 0.59%
Kudos to junkster
Reminds me of the Creedence Clearwater song:
I see the bad moon arising I see trouble on the way I see earthquakes and lightnin' I see bad times today
Don't go around tonight Well, it's bound to take your life There's a bad moon on the rise
I hear hurricanes a-blowing I know the end is coming soon I fear rivers overflowing I hear the voice of rage and ruin
Just add tornadoes too
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Post by junkster on May 7, 2024 13:02:09 GMT -5
Down 0.45% today. It has had a stellar month. Still after being camped out and spoiled in some nice trending funds such as HOSIX, RCRIX, and SCFZX think I will pass on PMORX. Am totally out of another trender CBYYX. Also, and I could be dead wrong about this but detect some subtle slowing in the economy and commodities. The 10 year could be near a top in yields and it may be time to add risk in bonds. Friday’s job report could be a big tell if there is any slowdown in hiring/economy. If not then more pain for the risk on. Correction - make that down 0.34% for PMORX. More for the other classes of the fund, So far looks likes risk back on in bonds. Junk munis and long duration investment munis look better here than junk corporates especially if there is any weakening in the economy and lower 10 year yields. I have acted accordingly. May be much ado about nothing and the next tell should be next week’s inflation numbers. If there is a surprise and a lessening in inflation would just accelerate the budding move since last week. Often times moves occur before they are recognized by the analytical crowd. So we shall see. Am going into mute mode for several months so best of luck to all.
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Post by Admin on May 7, 2024 22:58:31 GMT -5
Yep, HY Munis have done great for one week, but very choppy = fast trading. They went down 3 times 1.5-2% in 2024. Based on chart below, it's not conclusive that rates are on a down trend. Junkster, thank you for posting. Attachments:
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Post by linter on May 8, 2024 8:34:20 GMT -5
yes, thanks both to junkster and to admin. very helpful, as per always ...
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